The wrong results of a simulation about radioactive decay

A simulation about radioactive decay was done, but the results seems wrong,
here is the .inp file:
Activation.inp (1.6 KB)

and the results file is:
Activation_31_tab.lis (491 Bytes)

in the case, for the neutron with energy of 2.53E-11GeV, almost every neutron produce one gold 198, so the total produced gold 198 is: 3606.25E+11(ignoring decay of gold 198), so after irradiation, the activity of gold 198 should be: ln(2)/2.695/24/3600 360*6.25E+11, the result shold be: 6.69785E+08Bq.
but the result from Fluka is: 3.9127E+08Bq.

and the result from Phits and Dchain is: 6.4645E+08(considering decay of gold 198).

so maybe the result from Fluka is wrong.

Hi Siyuan,

Recently, I led a team using the FLUKA to study the low energy neutron (<20MeV) irradiation induced activity. The results were comparing with other radionuclei inventory code, e.g. FISPACT-II, which also showed the similar discrepancy, even we have made the geometry correction to benchmark such 0-dimension Bateman equation solution.

I attached a paper regarding the issue for your reference. Obviously, the results from old version FLUKA and PHITS were consistent for the thermal neutron irradiation.
Residual activity evaluation a benchmark between ANITAFISPACT,FLUKA and PHITS codes.pdf (316.7 KB)

We have try the different scoring card of RESNUCLES and USBIN-ACTOMASS associating to the DECSCORE card to calculate the specific activity (Bq/kg). But the results still have a three times higher than the FISPACT-II results, for the natural Iron case.

I guess the problem might come from the FLUKA code itself, or we have a misunderstanding on the problem setting, especially for the unit, e.g.


I did not catch up the idea of “per primary”. Dose it has the same quantity as we set in the IRRPROFILE card, “p/s”?

Please see the relevant files:
acti_exer_12.28.flair (3.1 KB)
acti_exer_12.28.inp (2.5 KB)
DEMO.txt (16.8 KB)
source_newgen_neutron_DEMO.f (18.9 KB)

Maybe we can work together to figure out the problem, look forward to your response!

Happy new year for every one in the FLUKA community!

Best,

Da Chen

@101013211 , thanks for replying my question,
as my opinion, “per primary” means the results by one source particle.
the unit of the result in my case uploaded should be Bq, it can be found from the comment about RADDECAY card of the manual of Fluka, see notes 7 of RADDECAY card.
The probability of producing gold 198 by thermal neutron was checked using Fluka, it is almostly 100%.
so maybe the half-life of gold 198 is wrong in Fluka.

@Newconcept_1979 Thanks for your explanation!

We will use the RESNUCLE scoring card without associating to the DCYSCORE, to obtain the number of each residual nuclei. Then manually multiply by the decay constant of nuclei to examine the results with other code.

Best,

Da

The new cooling time about 2.695 days was added to the case, here is the results:

for the cooling time about 0 day,the results are:

A/Z Isotopes:

198 73 0.000 0.000
198 74 0.000 0.000
198 75 0.000 0.000
198 76 0.000 0.000
198 77 0.000 0.000
198 78 0.000 0.000
198 79 3.3435E+08 1.6025E-02
198 80 0.000 0.000
198 81 0.000 0.000
198 82 0.000 0.000
198 83 0.000 0.000

A/Z/m Isomers:

198 79 1 3.9127E+08 1.6025E-02

for the cooling time about 2.695 days,the results are:

A/Z Isotopes:

198 73 0.000 0.000
198 74 0.000 0.000
198 75 0.000 0.000
198 76 0.000 0.000
198 77 0.000 0.000
198 78 0.000 0.000
198 79 2.9500E+08 1.6025E-02
198 80 0.000 0.000
198 81 0.000 0.000
198 82 0.000 0.000
198 83 0.000 0.000

A/Z/m Isomers:

198 79 1 1.7368E+08 1.6025E-02

so for isotope gold 198, the half-life is longer than 2.695 days
and for isomer gold 198, the half-life is 2.272 days, it seems right.

by the way, for gold foil activation experiments, little special gamma energy from isomer gold 198 was found, the classical gamma pulse amplitude spectrum is:


only 411.8keV gamma is significantly observed.

Both the 198Au half-lives, of the ground state and the 812 keV level, are correct in FLUKA.
For the residual activity calculation, the 198Au direct production by neutron capture is presently split by construction on either level at 50% (hence the apparent activity underestimation you started from).
The fact that for the ground state you see at its half-life significantly more than half of its initial activity is simply due to the re-population by the isomer.

@ceruttif , what is the decay scheme about 198Au of the 812 keV level? only 411.8keV gamma was well observed in the gold activation experiment.

You can get it from ENSDF.
Note, however, that the aforementioned 50% split between the 812 keV level and the ground state as a result of neutron capture is merely an arbitrary assumption.

@ceruttif , Maybe the assumption is not reasonable because little special gamma ray for the 812 keV level was observed from the gold activation foil in the experiment.

It is indeed a rough estimate, as it clearly stated on slide 17 of the radioprotection lecture from the last beginners’ course (slides here).

@amario , but in the experiment, little 198Au of the 812 keV level is found.

You have already been given the answer 3 times. Read them.
We’re now closing this thread.

See also the answer to a question about proton irradiation of 100Mo.